Long time friends and professionals Kirk Thatcher and Daren Dochterman spend an hour each week hanging out and talking about important things. Hear about their exploits in the business, and their combined 78 years of experience (not in a row). Their legacy of work plus their fandom and engagements in the worlds of Star Trek, Movies, Muppets, and Art fills this podcast with just the right amount of smugness to get them slapped in real life.