Better: The Brand Designer Podcast

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Better: The Brand Designer Podcast, founded by Giselle Field of Wander Design Co. and Jen Davis, was founded on the belief that designers need community. We find that the branding world often feels secretive, competitive, and sometimes just plain old confusing. When we realized that our honest, soul-chat-level convos could potentially help other designers, we realized a podcast was only natural! Better: The Brand Designer Podcast was officially born.

Giselle passed away during a climbing trip in Peru in summer of 2020. We encourage all listeners of our podcast to listen to our two Celebrating Giselle episodes. Giselle's adventurous, kind, funny, and supportive presence is missed every day—each and every episode that we record is dedicated to her legacy and her vision for this podcast. It is our honor to continue recording episodes in Giselle's memory and we know that she is with us every time we sit down to record.

In winter of 2022, we welcomed Esther Knox-Dekoning from Sereth Design as a new co-host. Esther brought an incredible and fresh perspective to the pod—her transition from agency to design studio as well as her love for web design, sustainability, and world change brought new guests, ideas, and amazing episodes to our listeners. She departed the pod in spring 2023 to dedicate more time to her studio's growth, and will be greatly missed!

Now, Jen runs the podcast solo and is beyond excited to continue interviewing guests, having interesting conversations, and sharing the behind-the-scenes of running her design studio.

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  • iamchellsbells
    I want to like this show
    I really do want to like this show, but every time I try to listen I have to skip the first 15-25 minutes of the show before they actually get to their topic.
  • katcjo
    Absolute Best!
    I love this podcast so much. Jen and Esther are honest, refreshing, uplifting, and inspiring. I look forward to this podcast every week. It’s like listening to design besties every week. They remind me of my why. My why wanting to be a brand designer and not to give up on my dream goals for my business. ✨
  • Nikki @ Yellow Creative Co.
    Theeee best!
    This is the best podcast for all things brand design. Most of us are running our businesses but with Better, I feel like I’m running a business alongside other designers—and more importantly, friends! Packed full of knowledge, experience and vulnerability… it’s a great podcast for you wherever you are in your design business!
  • savannas army
    Scammmmmers!!!!
    Hey June creative is a scammer!!!! Beware. She’s scams esthetician’s, she scammed the Dallas esthetician & many more.
  • starsnailz
    Love this!
    I love listening to Giselle and Jen! They are delightfully creative, personable, and professional. I really enjoy following them on Instagram, which makes me feel like I have a more well rounded feel for their beautiful styles. Each episode is very insightful and entertaining!
  • Susan White Orlando
    Real world solutions
    These two approachable podcasters don’t pull any punches. Mistakes, misconceptions, ignorance and popular misinformation are examined and discredited with humor and humility. The first podcast dedicated to the business of design, you will learn secrets for success while laughing and saying “oh yeah, I’ve done that…” Highly recommend for all design business owners.
  • Jane.renee
    Love this!
    The episode with Diana M. is so good. Such helpful info and love her branding and voicing!
  • Bunz29
    A must listen!
    I absolutely adore this podcast - it’s like hanging out and chatting with your biz besties and you get to walk away feeling inspired, motivated, and having concrete ways to take action!
  • carmen.barnhill
    Love this podcast!
    Such an encouraging podcast full of good info. Jen and Giselle are upbeat and fun to listen to. I love knowing that I’m not the only one learning and making adjustments to my business. I never feel overwhelmed or like I’m failing after listening to a new episode: I feel like I have friends learning right alongside me. This is such a great example of community over competition.
  • whsijey
    Favorite design podcast
    I love this podcast and was hooked from episode 1! Jen and Giselle are so relatable, honest and helpful! I feel like they’re my design friends everytime I listen. Their Facebook group is also super helpful and a great community!
  • famstock
    This is the podcast I’ve been waiting for!
    I love, LOVE this podcast!! It is seriously the graphic design podcast I’ve been searching/waiting for especially since I am just beginning my career as a brand designer. You both are so relatable and honest, and I feel like I’m friends with you even though I don’t even know you! Haha! So THANK YOU!! 💕 keep doing what you’re doing and I can’t wait to hear more 🥰
  • HeyyyJuliette
    Love this!
    I really like Giselle's and Jen's approach to building community through their podcast. I don't know much about brand design so it's great to hear about the day to day life and different content topics :)
  • Dosterquist
    The best!
    This is one of my favorite podcasts — the community that Jen and Giselle have built to accompany the podcast is so inspiring and I so appreciate the (number) of times these two have helped me personally when I’ve reached out with specific questions. Forever thankful for this podcast and may it never end! Xo
  • steph.blondet
    A web developer learning brand design from these two!
    As a web developer wanting to learn more about brand design to help my clients, I find this podcast very helpful! Giselle and Jen have real conversations and share helpful tips. I'm so happy they decided to share their knowledge with the world! Keep it up, ladies!
  • kat7lew
    This podcast makes me feel heard!
    I listened to this podcast for the first time during a workout and I felt like someone was finally speaking my language. It’s nice to have a podcast specifically for brand identity design. I am looking forward to continue listening and getting actionable and specific tips for my field!
  • Sam Weiler
    Love this podcast!!
    This podcast has seriously become one of my faaaavorites—and I’m not even a brand designer! Because I do design websites, there is still so much I can learn from Jen and Giselle. They are so fun, informative, and really feel like friends, now that I’m a few episodes in. Give it a listen!! There’s so much goodness here. - Sam, Rooting For You Studio
  • Cluckitycluck
    Humbly Honest and Empowering
    Jen and Giselle have this sweetness about them that is so admirable and inspiring. Being vulnerable and humble, they share their real-life experiences as brand designers that most of us wonder “who else out there is feeling this way?!” Thanks for taking the initiative to launch this podcast. Much respect for you two. Cheers!
  • Ridz 12&28
    Thank you for the initiative!
    The conversations around brand designing are just so easy to relate to as if these girls are reading your mind and saying what you are thinking! Great going, let’s become better and better one topic at a time! Thank you!
  • JMNC
    Great discussions
    Two real designers talking about the real issues we wonder about from day to day! Such a good resource. Looking forward to more episodes & topics!
  • Poised Avenue Design Studio
    Such a Refreshing Design Podcast!
    I’ve loved this podcast from the moment I stumbled across its account on Instagram! Jen and Giselle make me feel as if I were their design friend in real life. I love that this podcast is both casual and informative... it’s entertaining and you always walk away with something valuable! I can’t wait for even more episodes to launch!!
  • MADE BY WMN
    Refreshing, honest, vulnerable, and fun!
    So excited for the rest of the episodes to release! I listened to all 3 yesterday and I can't tell you how refreshing it was to hear both Jen + Giselle talk about branding/business in such a refreshingly honest/vulnerable/fun way. I found myself relating to literally everything that was said. Well done ladies, I think I just found my new favorite podcast! 👏🏻
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